Joining us today, Prof. Bill Black, Associate Professor of Economics and Law at the University of Missouri-Kansas City.  He is a white-collar criminologist, serial whistle-blower, former financial regulator, and author of the book, The Best Way To Rob a Bank Is To Own One.  You can check out his blog and follow him on Twitter @WilliamKBlack.   

A few weeks ago at Zuccotti Park in New York, the center of the Occupy Wall Street movement, Dylan had the chance to speak at length to two Occupiers who, at first, seem to be a political odd couple.  Goldi is an activist and a musician hailing from the East Village, and Calvin is a recent NY’er who and former Tea Partier who grew up on a cattle ranch in Lott, Texas.

What brought Goldi to the protest?  He says that it started for him last year when he was in DC protesting.  “I went to that Jon Stewart Rally and was – and I turned it into my own little anti-war protest, and it just fell flat.  And the news of the day was “Oh, moderate people are out protesting,” and I came back and I said, “Why did I go to DC?  Why don’t I just go down to Wall Street where everything, the root of all problems start?”  And then I heard about this protest; I was there day one.  It turns out that Wall Street is the root of many of the problems that really bother me.” says Goldi.

Calvin has also been at Zuccotti Park night after night, coming there right after work, from the very beginning.

“I’m angry, I’m mad, I’m down there as a son, as a brother, as an uncle, as a friend, a patriot, a taxpayer, and voter, and I’m mad as hell,” says Calvin.  “I’m mad because every time I go to the polls and vote, not matter which way I vote, I elect the same SOBs to office and they turn around and they sell me out because they belong to the banks…. And I’m sick and tired of it and I don’t care what has to be done, who I’ve got to stand with, I want my country back.  Because that’s the theme for the last year and a half, you hear “I want my country back,” but people haven’t figured out who stole it,” he says.

Prof. Black says that the quick growth of the Occupy Wall Street movement has been incredible to watch. “This group of folks, who come from incredibly different backgrounds, want very different things but share the frustration have created not just a national movement but a world movement and they did in just a few days.  It’s remarkable.  And so this is the kind of energy that is required.”

Listen in to the conversation about Occupy Wall Street, money and politics, the banking industry, the future of our economy and the future of the protest movement.  

Let us know what you think — send Dylan an email at dylan@dylanratigan.com, or leave a message in the comments section below.